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Bear Grylls is Fake

July 30th, 2007

Bear Grylls is at it again! This time using a fake bear on his TV Show Man Vs. Wild to simulate a real bear, and danger.

Just last week Bear Grylls was caught sleeping in Hotel rooms when he should have been sleeping in the wild!!

We all now know Bear Grylls = Entertainment ONLY, it’s not areal show like Survivorman!!!

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  1. sam wrote,

    bear grylls takes to many chances.les is more knowlegable to me,he more down to earth plus i dont think he would drink his own piss

    Comment on July 30, 2007 @ 5:01 pm

  2. bryan wrote,

    I find survival man completely boring. I haven’t seen a real report that Bear Grylls is fake. If he is fake at least he is worth watching. Survival man won’t drink his own piss because he shows sucks.

    Comment on July 30, 2007 @ 6:51 pm

  3. chuck wrote,

    I agree with Bryan. I didn’t like Survival Man and won’t watch any more. I like Man vs Wild fake or not and can’t wait till the third season.

    Comment on July 30, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

  4. todd wrote,

    Hey Guys, it’s in the news paper… he’s been int he paper 3 times in the last week and a half!

    Time to find the article.

    Comment on July 30, 2007 @ 6:57 pm

  5. Bill wrote,

    Bear Grylls is a fake! Man vs wild is fake! Survivorman wahooo!

    Comment on August 3, 2007 @ 7:14 pm

  6. John Galt wrote,

    Keep in mind that the guy one the non-fake tv show carries a radio, gps, and has a support team always within what…15 minutes of his location? (at the most)

    Thats probably what I would do.

    I had a feeling that Bear guy was fake. I didn’t get a good vibe from him on that show. It seems he could always find major risk to take each show….massive cliff that just has to be scaled…ect. Furthermore…the guy never dies. I’ve been waiting for him to pull a Crocodile Hunter….but it doesn’t seem like thats going to happen with either of them. One isn’t an idiot, and the other one sleeps in motels.

    Comment on August 16, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

  7. ssil wrote,

    Man vs. wild is not about putting a man’s life at risk. Bear Grylls has already proven that he can survive the elements by climbing Mt. Everest and crossing the Artic Ocean in little more than a dingy. This show is all about the survival tips he teaches us through his actions. They don’t say it’s a continuous journey.

    Les just spends the show setting up cameras and talking about how cold he is while waiting his 7 days.

    Comment on August 17, 2007 @ 11:48 am

  8. fhdfh wrote,

    survivorman is by far the worst show to be placed on tv sense PeeWees playhouse. I agree with ssil, the guy is sent down there with 2 fucking suitcases of camera equipment and god only knows what else he shoves in there. He doesnt teach you shit about survival other then how to complain,sit around for 7 days then walk 10 minutes to his ride out. At least grylls has you sitting there watching and if you walk away your pissed because you missed something, with les you walk away for half the show come back and hes still trying to catch the same ass fish. Id also like to see hard proof about the allegations of grylls fraud, other then just so called eye witness reports of him being at hotels, so far i havent heard anything that makes this fact, rumors and allegations are allways in the newspapers doesnt make it fact

    Comment on August 22, 2007 @ 10:30 pm

  9. spence wheeler wrote,

    I’m totally amazed that people actually believe Bear’s deluded hype that he was in the SAS???? Let’s have a reality check here, no SAS TA (21) or (23) would EVER say that they were present/ex SAS, only guys from (22) SAS have the right to say that, as well Bear knows!!!!! He has brought shame on the British SAS with his big fat fibs! Bear was in (21) SAS TA, part of the part-time Territorial Army for civvies. He passed selection for a TA SAS Regiment NOT THE REAL SAS! Even, then he only served 3 years part-time.

    Ah but Bear would say “same selection though” What total deluded rubbish this guys says; FACT; Any guy wanting to join (22) SAS from (21) or (23) has to do full 6 mths selection, no fast track allowance (they rarely make it) Even if they pass, they are then sent away for 6 mths for basic Army training skills with the Para’s before entering F/T with (22). So does that say equal selection to you? When you are badged to (22) then you are SAS Bear, you are a disgrace to the genuine hardworking guys in (21) and (23) SAS TA that don’t bullshit and the real deal guys of (22) SAS. Shame on you!

    Why on earth did Discovery use a TA SAS guy and not a real (22)SAS guy with true experience and skills. I bet they regret it now.

    In future Bear say your correct title ex (21) SAS TA. You so love to miss out the TA bit don’t you?

    Comment on August 29, 2007 @ 7:23 am

  10. Rich Santoro wrote,

    The real issue with “Man vs. Wild” isn’t that it is only a depiction of survival scenarios v. real situations… the real problem is that much of the advice given by Bear is critically dangerous, and could get you killed… It is not practical or informative survival advice. The show is a farce and sham because of his poor advice that is inaccurate and dangerous…

    The link below discusses the “bad survival advice”.

    http://www.daughtersoftiresias.org/bearwiki/Bad_Advice_and_Inaccuracies

    I believe that he is a phenomenal athlete and fully capable of handling the physical challenges that are depicted on the show… Granted they stage the shots and setup the situations… I suppose it is advisable to eliminate the real danger (why should he kill himself for a show???), and to make the scenes more exciting and entertaining to watch (he is essentially replicating real situations in more a production friendly manner).

    The problem: 1) It is a let down to see it is faked when it is billed as REAL SURVIVAL, and 2) It is upsetting to treated like we are all dumb out-in TV land (I for one am not OK with being lied to for the sake of entertainment - refer to the 1950’s game show “Twenty One”) 3) IT IS WRONG ON SURVIVAL!!!

    So, Bear Grylls may be a capable and skilled survivalist, but he is not a genuine all-encompassing survival expert. He uses off screen consultants for the survival techniques that he presents, and the scenes are setup for him to be oh so adventurous… but yet somehow they actually come up with critically BAD survival advice… as in the link above…

    1) Drinking your urine - full of toxins
    2) Squeezing elephant dung to get moisture - saturated with disease causing bacteria
    3) Drifting down stream at high altitudes - The fast track to hypothermia
    4) Jumping into a white-water rapid - ticket to drowning
    5) Using parachute cord to repell - happy landing
    6) Swimming under a log jam not knowing if there is an openning - who needs air anyway???
    7) Climbing a tree to get ripe avocados - The ripe ones are on the ground dummy, big waste of energy
    8) Use coconut oil as a sun block - believe that and you will fry in the sun thinking you are protected
    9) No discussion on the time, planning and preparation needed to gather enough firewood for an entire night, to build a sturdy raft, to build an adequate shelter, to gather enough food - he just runs, jumps and climbs all day, then settles down to a fire with plenty of wood, has a nicely crafted raft with sawed ends, starts grabbing food on a whim because he is hungry…

    Bear Grylls - On this day, he is Rich Santoro’s “Worst Person in the World” (homage to Olbermann)

    Comment on August 29, 2007 @ 11:28 am

  11. Luke wrote,

    Survivorman is one of the best reality survival shows I have ever seen. Les is a real person and I can see myself in his place. Yea, he complains but lets see you live outside for seven days without food or equipment. And besides that Les is likalbe while the Man Vs Wild guys is an ass.

    Comment on September 21, 2007 @ 8:13 am

  12. Animal wrote,

    yo yu all need to shut the hell up cuz if he sleeps in a hotel some times so what yu would to if yu had to spend so many night out side in the cold and foodless.. he actually makes the show intresting and is running through forests and deserts .. soo wat les just sits there telling why its important to stay put.. if yu just follow a stream to a river and a river to a road or something its a lot faster to get out of the wilderness .. and les just sits and build dumb shelters and waits 6 or 7 days for walk for what maby a mile or so before he gets picked up. and yea bear drinks his urine .. he didnt get sick why dont you ppl get yur facts straight.. hes only gotten sick 2times once in the jungle where he had a stomach sickness.. and after he ate that dead zebra in africa but he was lifted up by helicopter and brought back to a village . and recieved medical treatment. he puts him self in real danger .. les just sits around not doing much.. wat the most Les has came in counter with a wat a bear all the way on the other side of the river .. yea real danger .. wat ever bear is great and les is boring as hel

    Comment on September 24, 2007 @ 12:21 pm

  13. Wade Murray wrote,

    I watch both shows and believe both men research the areas they plan to survive in. I don’t recall Bear recommending that one drink his own urine at his or her first thrist w/o water. I took urine and moisture from elephant feces to be a last resort, maybe even a near death-last resort method of obtaining moisture. I think one can learn survival methods from both men, in spite of them being very different.

    Wade

    Comment on September 24, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

  14. Rob wrote,

    Both shows are noteworthy. If Bear was in a hotel then perhaps he actually ran into a situation that required intervention and thus not something for the show. Both of them ARE putting their life on the line, right? I have seen (on MVW show) him go into frigid cold waters, swim into alligator filled waters, etc. His camera men deserve the same accolades and so on. Cameras aside, they are both doing things that one should think about. Is that not the intention of the program?

    Comment on September 27, 2007 @ 6:43 pm

  15. Jacob wrote,

    Whoever thinks watching Bear is better entertainment than Les Stroud is a complete dumbass. Man vs. Wild is a pussy show that stages everything and teaches you nothing about survival. All Bear does is douchebag stunts that will get you killed. Survivorman is much more entertaining because, quite frankly, it is a fake ass show.

    Comment on September 30, 2007 @ 4:45 pm

  16. Jacob wrote,

    It is not a fake ass show**

    Comment on September 30, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

  17. zoe wrote,

    hmm… you all have made me think about this… i wonder. personally i liked to watch man vs wild better, but now that i have been shown how it is staged… of now that i believe it is staged i kinda annoys me…hmm, maybe its like i love new york… i hate her but yet its still an entertainig show… and i feel like bear is fake, but its still an entertaining show.. so maybe it doesnt really matter who the hell it is thats on and whether its fake or not…( like i love new york.. do u really think that those guys love new york??)tv as long as ur entertained!!

    Comment on October 7, 2007 @ 9:51 pm

  18. Brian and Daniel wrote,

    I think Bear Grylls is a big fake! I don’t think that he will have many fans after this. He is in as much danger as you typing on a computer in your nice cozy office. When he brings flint and steel and a water bottle he probably also brings five chocolate bars, two peanut butter cups, a milkyway bar, and three pounds of chocolate chips! When he goes on a desert trip his crew brings enough water for th e crew and Bear Grylls.

    Comment on October 8, 2007 @ 3:52 pm

  19. Rich Santoro wrote,

    I don’t watch “I love New York” (saw it flipping around, watched a bit… then moved on). The whole appeal of the show is the survival tension and the learning component… Without the tension, and knowing that much of the advice is patently wrong for survival… it has lost its entertainment value. For staged outdoors survival, I will watch “Crocadile Dundee”.

    Ever seen the movie “Quiz Show”??? That movie has some insight into why being lied to for the sake of entertainment is wrong…

    Comment on October 10, 2007 @ 9:25 am

  20. Rich Santoro wrote,

    Man v. Wild ought to be called “Bear Grylls does a one man Fear Factor knock-off”

    Comment on October 12, 2007 @ 11:29 am

  21. brian wrote,

    A former crew member (sellout) “CLAIMED” that he was sleeping in a hotel during the filming of an episode. Of course the guy will want to get revenge so it has a good chance of being a false accusation. And if it is true, who cares…he bit a live fish and drank the spinal fluid. Hes the man and i will always watch the show.

    Comment on October 12, 2007 @ 5:43 pm

  22. luke wrote,

    The SAS is the only regiment to be born out of it’s TA couterpart; in fact, all CO’s must serve with the 21/23 lads. For an arm chair pundit in these letters to ‘put down’ the reserve lads, is an insult.

    Comment on October 21, 2007 @ 3:43 am

  23. Kim wrote,

    First of all…it’s television; don’t take it so darn serious! Second thing…pay attention. Bear has said on air, that sometimes things like snakes, dead camels, etc. are brought in just so he can show you what to do. He also tells you when he’s going to do something just to give a demo of what actions to take. I was watching an episode when he admitted he wasn’t going to be camping overnight, but he was going to show how to build a shelter. As for the piss drinking…he did mention that it was a last resort and to drink it soon after expelling it, because the longer it’s kept…the more bacteria builds up. Although I enjoy both shows; Les is a bit of a whiner. He is interesting, but not too exciting.

    Comment on November 23, 2007 @ 11:14 pm

  24. chris wrote,

    Survivor man SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Man VS Wild is a lot better. Bear Grylis is the bees knees

    Comment on December 1, 2007 @ 12:25 am

  25. Ben wrote,

    Survivorman is way better Les will climb a mountain to place a camera climb down then climb again for a cool shot. Bear is followed around by a camera crew who does everything for him

    Comment on December 2, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

  26. don wrote,

    There’s nothing to discuss here Bear and Les are both just actors laughing all the way to the bank

    Comment on December 5, 2007 @ 1:00 pm

  27. danlandolfe wrote,

    Anyone else notice that the people who dismiss Bear as a complete fraud happen to be naive, unrealistic, and not just a bit paranoid? It makes me wonder if many are so cut off from real life in the wild that they can’t imagine someone like them self living out there on their own. Really most modern humans struggle setting up a tent and getting a fire going with a bic. Not that every person that accuses this man of fraud lacks understanding of the woods, some have it, but there just seems to be a tendency in many to disbelieve that what Bear does can be done and that is a sad thing to go around thinking. Anyone can do what Bear does without help in the wild given a little knowledge and some space for creativity to express itself through an open mind.

    Comment on December 13, 2007 @ 3:01 am

  28. ricky wrote,

    bear grylls is fake but its entertianing

    notice:every episode he never catches eny thing it always says that a persone lended him some thing and he lies

    Comment on December 29, 2007 @ 1:35 pm

  29. ricky wrote,

    hellow world bear grills is fake but has a kool show (if want 2 kno more sign up for tagged.com)and add me or go 2 youtube and look it up

    Comment on December 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm

  30. bear grylls wrote,

    i am not fake but i did sleep in a hotel because it was to dngerous

    Comment on December 29, 2007 @ 1:40 pm

  31. dave wrote,

    OK,this is the last time im gonna say this.Bear,you are a good showman,thats all. Your SAS history is a bit out to fucking lunch, I’ve watched your shows to see what you’ve got in the way of survival and all I’ve seen was bullshit. Yes, I understand it is a show and that things have to be speeded up, so you get your crew to help you along the way. so far all I see is someone who is full of energy and you actually waste alot of it finding all these berries to make water taste better and to get rid of impurities. Hell man,i’m in the army and I had to go without water for a long time without any goddamn energy and I wasn’t looking for these magic berries you take because I had no energy to waste. I had to use it to drag my fucking carcass over the next ridge or R.V. You were in the TA or militia,part time hobbyist,having a fun time till your mom came and picked you up after the weekend was done. I will watch your show for the occasional hoot and guffaw, but I know it is full of shite,thanks for the laffs Bear…..now on to Les. Well yeah,you bitch alot,I mean you bitch more then I do in the field, but that has to be expected when your cold ,wet and tired. But like all soldiers, if your not complaining,thats when something is really wrong. I think your version shows no bullshit, I was looking all the time to see if your camera moved by itself and I havent seen it. Meaning you got a crafty cameraman or your really out there by yourself. Myself and another army buddy argue all the time about you two and I think I have finally proved that you were the best. You actually do survival shit, its not easy and that the way Bear makes it look. That time you were down in the jungle and you had to pull back was the best one you did. It just proves sometimes you can’t beat it, you have to know your limitations. Bear just doesn’t see his, because he hasn’t really done it. Great shows Les, please keep it up.

    Comment on January 3, 2008 @ 11:12 pm

  32. sean wrote,

    Bear grylls could whoop the guy from survivor mans’ ass anyday

    Following an investigation by the U.K.’s Channel 4 — which also broadcasts the reality series under the title Born Survivor: Bear Grylls — Discovery Channel has decided to air re-edited versions of Man vs. Wild to acknowledge that some scenes in the unscripted series are staged.

    Discovery Channel aired four straight first-season episodes of Man vs. Wild on Monday night, all of which featured a disclaimer that ran at the beginning and in the middle of the show.

    “Bear Grylls is trained in extreme survival techniques,” reads the disclaimer, according to The Reporter. “He and the crew receive support when they are in potentially life-threatening situations, as required by health and safety regulations. Professional advice should be always be sought before entering any dangerous environment.”

    In addition, Discovery Channel is also implementing a voiceover during segments of the re-edited episodes in which viewers were originally led to believe Grylls didn’t receive any off-camera assistance, according to The Reporter. For example, an episode set in the Scottish Highlands showed Grylls eating a rabbit he claimed to have caught in a trap.

    “My trap didn’t catch anything overnight, but I’ve been brought a rabbit to tell you what to do if you’re luckier than me,” Grylls said in the voiceover, according to The Reporter.

    A Discovery Channel team has been “working around the clock” in recent weeks to verify the truthfulness behind each of Man vs. Wild segment, according to The Reporter, which added additional episodes were still being edited as of Monday.

    id say he is just tryin to give more tips for surviving and making show more ineresting
    your welcome

    Comment on January 5, 2008 @ 4:58 pm

  33. tim wrote,

    Let’s put it this way…who would you rather be stuck in the wilderness with? My vote is for Les. These shows are meant to be educational first, entertaining second. If you think Man Vs Wild is more entertaining, that’s great, we all want to be entertained. But educational? No way. If you’ve ever spent any length of time in the outdoors, you know it isn’t minute after minute of adrenaline pounding excitement. If it is, there’s something seriously wrong. The slower pace of Les’ show makes it way more realistic.

    Comment on January 19, 2008 @ 2:05 pm

  34. Rich Santoro wrote,

    I am actually pretty satisfied with the edits to the old episodes… If they would have just sold the show as - an adventure series, where this former special services, youngest Mt. Everest climber, outdoor athlete, guy goes into extreme situations and interacts with locals and other experts to learn how to cope and overcome dangerous situations… I would have never complained (minus the erroneous survival tips like drinking urine and drinking water from feces… and jumping into fridgid rapids… and the misleading setup shots where he uses safety gear and depicts successful hunts that really failed, and falsely illuded to roughing it while staying indoors… well, I guess I would have still complained abit).

    In any event, the show can still be good (and would have been from the get go) if they were honest in what they were doing…

    Comment on January 24, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

  35. Mark wrote,

    I’m not sure why everyone compares these shows side-by-side when the only thing they have in common is both Les and Bear are willing to eat anything. I have always thought that Bear was simply showing how you COULD survive if you had the backround he has. Les meanwhile, was demonstrating survival techniques that ANYONE can use. I don’t doubt that Bear has spent many nights alone in the wilderness on his own, but I have never thought he was spending EVERY night outdoors during the course of an episode. Bear has NEVER caught anything significant on his program. He is given rabbits or sheep to demonstrate survival techniques and this is where the two shows diverge. Les catches all of his own food and in doing so reminds us there are no guarantees. Regardless of how many traps you may set, it only helps to better the odds, whereas Bear would lead you to believe that you need only try and you shall receive. That is simply not the case when you’re on your own. Unless you’re a Navy SEAL or Airborne Ranger, Bear’s program is of very little value. The average person isn’t an expert rock climber or or swimmer capable of standing freezing cold water, nor can they endure forced marches in 100 degree heat. Les on the other hand shows just by the day-by-day sequence of the show that after four or five days in the wilderness without food, you don’t have the energy to take on these massive tasks. Les also gives accurate advise on how to deal with wild animals while Bear’s is far less accurate. Bears advise on Alaskan bears is a great example. Bears to not hunt people. If they did, all of his ‘yo bear’ yelling would attract bears and make it more dangerous, not less. Les is entirely factual when he says that bears are more scared of humans than the reverse. Survivorman is also an asthetically pleasing show. His eye for filmmaking is masterful and his use of time laspe is exceptional. Man vs Wild simply documents the surroundings much the same way you might on a family vacation. I would expect better work from a film crew, considering what Les gives us.

    Comment on April 21, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

  36. Drew wrote,

    I have only seen the re-edited versions of Man vs Wild, but every thing they say now makes it very obvious he sets his situations. For instance, he said im going to jump off of this rock face so I can sow you what to do if you fall. Maybe before it was edited they just led you to believe he fell. And lots of times he will be like making this raft takes several days alone so my crew will help me make it and all of the sudden hes floating down stream. Now I will give you this really doesn’t help you if he doesn’t show you step by step how to make it. Also you need to understand he purposely makes extreme situations because sane people don’t go the place he goes, but the people who do probably are smart enough to have a water bottle and a knife. I mean if I’m parachuting on top of a mountain in east jesus nowhere i think I would carry a flint striker wouldn’t you? Honestly it’s not like they are trying to make you believe normal everyday people have parachutes at all times.

    And for those for those of you who are like why not get a real SAS guy?

    If you are pushing that hard why not get an American special forces man since it is probably viewed by more americans.

    I mean would it make you feel better if were an Army green beret, a Navy SEAL, or an Airforce PJ? Because I can guarantee he doesn’t pick what he does, his producers do, and so no matter who he is it will be almost the same.

    Comment on April 27, 2008 @ 2:59 pm

  37. Jeremy wrote,

    Doesnt seem anyones mentioned his family. I didnt read through all the comments but the guy has a wife and kids. I imagine as a father and husband he takes whatever precautions are needed to ensure his safety. He clearly has proved himself as an adventurer and surivor.

    The show is made to show us what would happen in a specific situation and i for one dont mind the fact that those situations may be setup in some instances. You also have to realize that they are on a schedule and budget and with all TV some things dont always work to your advatage and require a bit of reevaluation.

    I am a fan of Bear and think the show is great and is presented great. I think Les is also amazing. I have a hard time watching his show as well. With the camera crew and setup of man vs wild bear has more of an opportunity to teach and i personally learn more from his show.

    Props to both. I dont understand why there is such a argument between them. I love the outdoors and i love shows about it.

    Comment on April 27, 2008 @ 11:52 pm

  38. Jeremy P wrote,

    i do not understand how people are super impressed with this guy because he drinks piss….thats gross! but i just want to point out mountain dew looks similar to piss…..

    Comment on June 1, 2008 @ 1:33 pm

  39. kirkdanner wrote,

    I propose a solution to all of this nonsense.Bear vs Les, A knife fight to the death. Who do you have your money on?

    Comment on June 21, 2008 @ 11:56 pm

  40. ROFL wrote,

    wow everyone that posted here is close to or fundamentally retarded. What you don’t understand is that most of the information Bear gives you in a life or death situation would end up in YOU DYING. Les’ show is about what you could do, to survive, if you were trapped in the wild.

    Man vs Wild is for entertainment, Survivorman is for education.

    Comment on August 6, 2008 @ 12:46 pm

  41. ivy wrote,

    i think all of the people who like ‘gay survivor man’ are making it up. STAND UP FOR BEAR!!!

    Comment on September 13, 2008 @ 6:56 pm

  42. realman wrote,

    Both Gryls and Stroud are fakes! Both shows are all about ratings, just like everything else on television. The key to actual survival is to stay the hell away from the idiotic situations they portray…just like the morons who live on the coast then boohoo when tsunami wipes everything out. And for those times when you are compelled to go somewhere potentiall dangerous, I would hope you’re not as stupid as some who wouldn’t have any survival supplies with them. Oh, please be certain to bring a fuckin’ bible, as we all know how much good that’s done…only for the banker barons. Some of us just aren’t as stupid as they’d like us to be.

    Comment on September 17, 2008 @ 4:37 pm

  43. wfe wrote,

    it was so funny when he randomly covered himself in dirt in one of the episodes or when he ate a frog and said he was replenished from it haha what a joker

    Comment on October 7, 2008 @ 12:49 pm

  44. wfe wrote,

    he is a nazi

    Comment on October 7, 2008 @ 12:55 pm

  45. J-Murda wrote,

    Man vs. Wild and Survivorman teach 2 very different lessons about survival. One of the shows teaches you to stay put when stranded which is most recommended even by Bear Grylls. On Man vs. Wild however, the lesson is how to survive when you can no longer stay put. If you read any of Bears books it says that right in it. Bear never said anything about keep drinking your own urine, you’re only supposed to do it once before you dehydrate, just once. It is safe to do just once, if you ever served with a special infantry unit in the military they will teach you the same. With the elephant dung, he also states that it should be fresh before doing so go back and watch the show he says it before he drinks it. Les on the other hand from Survivor Man teaches how to stay put and what you should be doing while staying put. Les though has objects that a normal modern day civilian would not be carrying. I lived in the city and the woods and I have yet to see anybody carrying a harmonica on their person, yet I watched his show last night and he unscrwed his harmonica and spent valuable time and energy in making it into a spear which he didn’t use?!? Clever but un-realistic figuring a normal average civillian usually doesn’t carry a harmonica!!!
    Both shows have pros and cons to them and in nature taking risks to survive is neccessary think about it, you will faster not trying than taking a risk to survive, I’d rather die for something than to die for nothing… And for whoever was talking about the SAS saying Bear wasn’t a member tell you what, if you knwo so much about the SAS that means you must be an SAS operative? Well there have been a bunch of fine men that served in all special operations teams throughout the world and SAS is just like the US special forces, you can tell people that you were a member, but you can’t tell them you’re missions!!!

    Comment on October 25, 2008 @ 7:33 am

  46. cody wrote,

    so what if he stays in hotels..maby he stays in the hotels before he goes out into the wild..the show is just to show how to survive if u are in that situation

    Comment on December 12, 2008 @ 7:29 pm

  47. Blizzard wrote,

    I can’t say it any better than Rich Santoro did. If you truly want a chance at surviving in the wild, DO NOT attempt what Mr. Grylls shows you. You will more than likely never make it out of the woods.

    Those of you that find Les Stroud boring obviously aren’t watching to learn survival techniques. Survival isn’t about jumping from a ledge into a tree and hoping you don’t end up on the ground with a broken back or ankle or sliding down a waterfall chute hoping you don’t bust your head open and drown. It’s about keeping a level head and minimizing your chances of injury while you execute a plan to get back to safety.

    Survivorman exhibits this and the techniques involved to accomplish this. Man Vs. Wild ultimately shows you how to become a statistic on a search and rescue or recovery report.

    Comment on December 13, 2008 @ 9:19 am

  48. Dee3rdSFG wrote,

    You people kill me, lets not even mention that 80% of you have never spent anytime doing anything outdoorsy, let alone survival related. Just because you were a boy scout 20 years ago means nothing. Bear teaches you how to get the hell out of places and possibly find some civilization, Les teaches you how to survive until you get rescued. If you are in the desert and there is not a source of water around, drinking your piss is the next best thing, he manned up and did it to show that it works. But you fat slob couch potatoes criticize him for it. Its sad, take a look at your life and tell me you have done anyting remotely exciting. De opressor liber you fukkin pussies

    Comment on December 18, 2008 @ 2:18 pm

  49. Les Fan wrote,

    There’s no contest in, my opinion. Bear’s show is extremely managed by his producers. He is sent out to a location with a camera crew and pointed towards something favorable/unfavorable depending on his situation. Bear’s decisions are based on what makes “good TV”.

    Les is out there on his own making decisions based on his real time situation. He educates the viewer on what and why he is doing what he does.

    Bear’s decisions are made not on his situation but instead on what makes “good TV” according to his producers,

    Comment on December 23, 2008 @ 6:37 pm

  50. LA wrote,

    This has got to be the funniest set of posts I believe that I have ever read. And I’ve read boat loads of posts about all sorts of things.

    And the funniest thing about these posts is how fervently (almost rabidly) you all either support or lambast the shows.

    As I am not a ’survivalist’ (I am just a normal, everyday woman) I must say that both shows are entertaining and, whether or not you want to believe it, informative.

    I seriously doubt I’ll ever be trapped out in the middle of the Kalahari or somewhere in the Canadian bush…but if I was I could at least rely on the number 1 bit of advice BOTH men give…and that is…stay calm, stay focused, don’t freak out.

    That’s a survial lesson we can all use no matter where we are.

    Personally, as a viewer and a woman, I’ll admit straight up that Bear is way WAY more interesting to look at and listen to while Les is more of a ‘down to earth’ sort of guy I suppose that means if anyone has learned the meaning of survival…it’s the Discovery Channel’s programming directors…because someone, probably someone who has never had to survive anything other than standing in a damn long line to get tickets to the 30th anniversary showing of Star Wars, was bright enough to realize that men and women will watch Bear whereas it’s mainly just men who’ll watch Les…

    Genius…sheer genius!

    Comment on January 7, 2009 @ 3:18 pm

  51. charlie wrote,

    Bear has camera crewa

    Comment on January 10, 2009 @ 6:22 pm

  52. We love Bear! wrote,

    Les (survivorman) is BORING..All he does is WHINE, SIT AROUND for 7 days. I learn more when I watch Bear (Man vs. Wild), its more realistic and tries to survive. For those people who likes Les, i think you guys will die faster because you wont drink your pee as a last resort and probably just stay in the jungle and sit around.

    Comment on January 17, 2009 @ 10:11 pm

  53. Jenn wrote,

    I like the comments about him not showing the amount of time it takes to gather the things he needs. If he did, I think that the show might be a little lengthy. Obviously he can’t show how long things take in one hour.

    As far as drinking urine and such, that’s a last resort… And you can drink your own urine, just so you know. It won’t kill you. I love how people don’t give the human body any credit what-so-ever. We are actually rather resilient. But, you know, everyone just sits around all pampered, so…

    The comparison is ridiculous. Bear Grylls might do some things that aren’t practical, but sometimes you don’t have a choice. I would rather try something risky than just give up and die.

    But that’s just me.

    Comment on January 19, 2009 @ 5:50 pm

  54. mike t wrote,

    Bear = WWF Wrestling Fake, entertaining
    Les Stroud = UFC Real situations. Yeah, it might take all day to catch a fish Thats realality.. Bear would have someone bait his hook and put a huge salmon on the line. Bear’s advise will get you dead.

    Comment on January 19, 2009 @ 8:55 pm

  55. Kale wrote,

    Bear Grylls MIGHT not be completely real. But if you hating-ass-morons douchefucks would wake up and learn to read the show clearly states “Some situations are presented to Bear so he can demostrate”.

    Yeah so what if some of it is fake, he still drank his own urine, drank elephant feces, ate a live fish/ killed LIVE dangerous snakes. Thats pretty fucking real.

    Not to mention he was in the Guiness World Book of Records AND climbed Mt.Everest.

    SO all you piece of shit losers need to get that dick out of your mouth and stop hating on Bear Grylls (one the best men on Earth next to Dad and Obama) because he has been to more places and accomplished more things than you ever will in your shitty fuckface lives.

    BTW Survivorman is a fucking boring piece of shit show that TEACHES YOU NOTHING. and only fuckface loser dumbshits enjoy BIG GAY LES STROUD sitting on his fat lazy ass complaining that his wife left him. Oh dont get me started on how fake survivorman is.THE BITCH WEARS A SURVIVAL JACKET FOR GODS SAKE!

    Bear Grylls = #1

    anybody that doesnt agree, is a fuckface loser dumbshit that should crawl under a rock and stay there.And keep their shitty retard opinions to themselves.

    Comment on January 23, 2009 @ 11:34 pm

  56. daniel wrote,

    really guys shut the fuck up
    bear is my nigga
    so is less u guys bost need ass woopens you couldnt even do half the shit they could none the less affor the hotel bear stayed in if he did so i your complaning i dont think you could do a better job than him

    Comment on January 27, 2009 @ 8:50 pm

  57. DBO wrote,

    Everyone needs to leave Bear alone. Bear is simply stating and demonstrating survival techniques. Example if you have a son that has a question about survival you dont fly him across sea to show him,you take him to the nearest location to demonstrate the question of survuval that was asked,so thats mean if bear is in a vehicle and sees a perfect oppurtunity to teach and demonstrate survival and what to look and watch out for then im all eyes and ears!!!!!!Second of all if its so easy and he is a fake why are you guys making accusations and spending your time on the computer start your own show and see how long you last!!!!

    Comment on February 18, 2009 @ 10:21 am

  58. neil wrote,

    what fool wrote that about 21/23 he knows sweet FA what a bell end

    Comment on February 18, 2009 @ 1:52 pm

  59. neil wrote,

    bear rocks by the way

    Comment on February 18, 2009 @ 1:52 pm

  60. bray wrote,

    i think survivor man sucks its boring and man vs wild is awesome and how do they know that survivor man isnt fake!!!

    Comment on February 19, 2009 @ 9:37 am

  61. joe peterson wrote,

    You wouldn’t last in boston

    Comment on February 22, 2009 @ 12:47 pm

  62. JerryB wrote,

    Bear is entertainment and Les is educational end of story!!!!11111!!! Yeah Surviorman is a little boring at times But you can learn a lot from him. Man vs wild is never boring and you can learn what not to do from him . I myself grew up in the woods hunting and fishing camping since I was 6 years old. I am pretty sure In north America I could out survive Bear any day of the week.

    Bear does show you the things you need to do in the most dire of circumstances. When he should be showing you how to avoid getting to the worst case situations.

    Both shows are great but they are not in the same category and as viewers we have shown we prefer the entertainment then the educational

    Comment on February 24, 2009 @ 6:46 am

  63. Rasengan999 wrote,

    Look. Its simple Bear is Better, LES is LESS.

    Comment on March 21, 2009 @ 6:48 am

  64. Dylan wrote,

    Does all these people who are putting down bear for being in 21 SAS know that Cpl. Chris Ryan, the man who E&E’d out of Iraq durring the Bravo-2-0 mission was originally from 21 SAS?

    He made one of the longest E&Es in British Military History, while his mates were either captured or killed?

    Show some respect.

    Bear is making a TV show, he is showing techniques and it’s entertaining.
    Les is a stud as well, but his show can be a bit boring, he should bring a camera crew as well.

    Bear has helped me get my 6 year old interested in the outdoors and no longer complains on long walks with me because “I’m going to be tough like Bear, Dad.”

    Maybe he wil join 19th Special Forces Group, a Reserve/National Guard outfit that has seen action in Iraq and Afghanistan and just had a Lt. recieve a Silver Star.

    Dont diss reservist unless you were SAS, SF, DELTA or a SEAL and the guys I know who were dont diss them.

    Peace,

    Dylan

    Comment on April 10, 2009 @ 3:36 pm

  65. justin wrote,

    someday i’m going to join the army and make my own survival show with nothing but a knife okay so just watch my show instead mine will be awesome and i like both shows..

    Comment on May 17, 2009 @ 2:38 pm

  66. hameer wrote,

    it’s not fake every thing shown on man vs wild is real but in very very extreme conditions,helicopter rescue can be calledusing emergency phone

    Comment on May 20, 2009 @ 1:06 am

  67. Stuart wrote,

    I can’t believe some of you guys are taking this all so seriously…..Both guys are on TV because they are entertaining, both guys are more than capable of surviving in the wild through the experiences they have learnt in the past. Both guys have family to feed and are making the most of getting money from their shows…..Where’s the problem in that? Most people in the UK and US never go furthyer outside their houses that the distance between the door and the car anyway - For people who do enjoy the outdoors they’ll know it’s tongue in cheek entertainment……….But that’s it, it’s just entertainment…..My kids love it…

    Comment on May 21, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

  68. YOU'RE DUMB wrote,

    Les Stroud sits around for days with an arsenal of goodies and does nothing, Bear Grylls shows you how to get out of situation brandishing nothing but a knife.

    ALL the accusations against Grylls are speculation, Stroud was caught and ticketed for filming in a national park WITH the camera crew he claims not to have.

    Les Stroud is a joke, he shows you how to camp out, WHOA!

    Anyone who thinks Les is more of a “survivor” than Bear is retarded, plain and simple.

    Comment on May 29, 2009 @ 12:54 am

  69. Lesley Band wrote,

    Survivor Man and Man vs. Wild are two different shows. One is about a guy (Les) that proves to us time after boring time that he can sit and starve for a week. Yes he teaches useful and practical survival techniques, but he is awfully boring when he is doing it.

    Man Vs Wild teaches just as truthful, and useful, survival advice. The only difference is its fun to watch and yeah, he has a camera crew.

    A survival show should show you how to survive in any circumstance. Bear Grylls puts him self in dangerous situations to show YOU how to survive! We all know both of them could survive just as well on there own. So if thats the case why should Bear go out and starve to teach people survival techniques.

    So he is given food so he can teach you how to cook it, and half the time he actually catches something, and 100 percent of the time he teaches you how to catch what he is given or caught.

    What I have learned from Man Vs Wild

    All ways have a way of making fire.

    All ways have cord or rope.

    HAVE FREAKING PEOPLE WITH YOU!

    Have something to carry and boil water in.

    Less teaches basically all the same stuff. He is just incredibly boring. And truthfully bear eats more stuff that he OBVIOSLY got on his own (insects, snakes, turtles) in one episode, than Less has ever eaten in all his shows. Bear RULES!

    Comment on August 24, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

  70. D wrote,

    This, like with any situation, comes down to balls. I am an expert at testicular analysis, due to the fact that I possess 14.5 of them. Allow me to break this down.

    Take a look a Les Stroud, his dialogue is dry and laced with the bitchiness of a 12-year-old girl. His balls, most likely, are grafted from the normal humanly stuff that you regular guys who enjoy his show probably have. This is pure speculation, but he could possibly be in possession of a man-gina.

    Bear Grylls, on the other hand, has nads chiseled from solid titanium and otherworldly materials with the capacity to vaporize planets like the Death Star. They are undoubtedly a massive burden, for him to lug them to the apex of Everest was quite an accomplishment. Also, he’s got the charisma to back it up. Les Stroud probably masturbates a flaccid, pathetic wang (or man-gina) to Bear’s shirtless glory. Off-camera, of course.

    Bear is a man’s man. His show is all about the techniques of survival. He’s shown me only two situations where I would want to drink my own piss, no matter how teeming it is with toxins. Situation 1: I am dying of thirst in the middle of some shit-hole country, like Mexico. Situation 2: I am forced to watch Survivorman.

    Comment on August 30, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

  71. Hal von Luebbert wrote,

    During the years 1986 to 1989, and again from 1994 to 2001, with my family (not one, but two wives forced to betray me or go to jail) and businesses destroyed by IRS, and with my enemy having taken effective steps to assure that I would never again be gainfully employed, I moved to the wilderness and lived entirely in the wild and off the land. An orphan abandoned by parents, I lived in a sod hut I built myself by a river back home during my high school years. Most of my food came from nature in the form of hunting, fishing, and foraging.

    Having returned to civilization after 9-11 (the government were too busy to keep harassing me, I guess), I sometimes watch the two programs being discussed here, and frequently point out to friends errors made by the two experts.

    And, make no mistake, both Stroud and Grylls are real experts. The difference is that of lenght of experience. When there is no one covering for you, watching from nearby to assure that you’re okay, and you stay in the wild for months or years rather than being “rescued” on a regular basis, you learn long-term survival (what works for a week will often get you in a hell of a mess, given months of time).

    Still, both of these shows are worth the viewer’s while. Anyone who has climbed Everest (at twenty-three years of age) as Grylls has is obviously a real stud. And anyone who thinks survival in the wilderness is boring simply gives himself away for the typical U.S. male that he is. The virtual reality of TV and the movies is a whole lot different than Mother Nature.

    Comment on September 3, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

  72. EMTOEC wrote,

    I watched the show for the first time and it appeared some things did not make sense. Bear was in a Texas desert…. found a trap with about 60 feet of heavy rope attached to it??? Come on. Then he placed it in his pack and started trekking/Rock hopping…. in several scenes the size of his backpack would grow and shrink. Menaing the heavy rope was packed in it at times and at times it was not. I tend to agree that there are alot of inconsistencies with the show.

    Comment on September 10, 2009 @ 8:16 am

  73. Wizzrd wrote,

    Hi, im just gonna say once i watched survivor man and he had a hunting rifle and a friend but besides that. um i think they should combine the show have Les and Bear out their together that show would be awsome! i mean if bear really is BS then why not have him out there with someone who isnt BS and then have one kick butt show!!

    Comment on September 11, 2009 @ 6:59 pm

  74. todd wrote,

    I agree!
    Les + Bear in one episode would be interesting to say the least!

    Comment on September 12, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

  75. todd wrote,

    I agree.
    They edit things and think the viewer will not notice.

    Comment on September 12, 2009 @ 5:00 pm

  76. todd wrote,

    You don’t need balls to be stupid you just need less of a brain… which at times it would appear bear has less than les ;)

    Comment on September 12, 2009 @ 5:01 pm

  77. todd wrote,

    That’s true.
    But I think people want to think it’s real.

    Comment on September 12, 2009 @ 5:03 pm

  78. Tina wrote,

    Survivorman SUCKS. Aside from the annoying complaining, this is a guy that wanders in the woodsy part of some state park, armed with his knife, matches, machete, guitar, rope..etc. Sits around for a few days then meets his ride. Wow, how exciting. Bear shows you how to not only survive but how to get out of the area. Isn’t that the point? He maybe has his parachute, a knife, and the occassional canteen. Does anyone watching REALLY ever expect to drink their own piss? Of course not. But many of his ideas/advice is good to know. I don’t really care if he has an advisor, who doesn’t on these shows?

    Comment on September 12, 2009 @ 5:19 pm

  79. Im not gay wrote,

    They need to show Bears penis

    Comment on September 13, 2009 @ 10:34 am

  80. Slider2k wrote,

    If you happen to be stranded in the wild and you go ninja-style like in fake Bear’s shows you have NEAR ZERO chances of survival.

    Comment on September 21, 2009 @ 1:29 am

  81. Paul wrote,

    Man vs. Wild is an awesome show!! Who cares if some of the stunts are planned or objects are conveniently laying out in the open, he demonstrates what you COULD do in the MOST EXTREME situations not a guideline for basic survival. Les is a tree hugging pussy who gets all butt hurt and emotional whenever he has to kill an insect for food and apologizes for catching a fish and claims it’s what you must do in the extreme cases for survival, F@$K that, animals are here for us to eat dammit! Bear has no problem with slaughtering an animal for food, and that’s the way it should be. Bear is a bad ass and Les is a Canadian pussy, end of story.

    Comment on October 15, 2009 @ 10:04 pm

  82. Adam wrote,

    Wow. I feel like a loser posting anything on this site, (especially since the last post was in October) but i’m going to anyway.
    I find it funny that no one really mentioned the amount of $ Bear raises for charities. Not only is doing a benevolent service by donating/raising millions, he’s also risking his life (let’s face it…not everything on his show is as innocuous as people think) to evince that, with the will to live, a terrible situation such as being stranded is possible to endure and survive.
    Take a look at his background. He comes from affluent parents. Do you think he’s performing these virtually impossible, and highly precarious feats for $? Probably not. He does it for your benefit. Sure it’s entertainment. It’s entertaining as hell! But it’s not fabricated.
    If he’s in an alley in NYC and an opportunity arises to demonstrate survival, and the same plight could happen in a genuine survival situation, he’s going to make you believe that they are one and the same. If you ask me…proof that he knows what the hell he’s doing.

    Comment on December 19, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

  83. Eli wrote,

    All of his extreme situations, i’ve noticed, are easily managed by a guy with a camera on his shoulder. End of story.

    Comment on December 20, 2009 @ 12:06 pm

  84. Michael wrote,

    I understand all of the issues people may have with Bear Grylls, but in my point of view his show is entertaining, and thats all I’m looking for, if you asked Bear for real, practical survival tips, I’m sure he’d be able to give at least a few decent ones to you… if not more. Those of us who were fooled into believed his show is 100% authentic are fools. If you watch his show now, fully edited in the U.S.A. for full disclosure of information, there’s little to be angry with.

    Really Man vs. Wild is just a kickass hour (eh… 45 minutes) of action packed entertainment. He climbed Mount Everest. Can’t fake that, and in my book that’s an instant and one way trip onto the super badass list.

    Comment on December 23, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

  85. bootneck wrote,

    spencer wheeler what a shock….you are commenting on another forum…you have invested alot of time in telling everyone ta sas are not real sas havent you and ive told you everysingle time you just a pathetic walt that knows nothing.
    they are part of uksf and are currently bieng used in real operations end of story.
    uksf r now do selection alongside regular counterparts, same times, same routes, same distances.
    were your getting your facts from about sas reserves never making it into 22 i dont know because outside of a unit like the paras they supply the most FACT
    what do you mean 21/23 are not sas…actualy 21/22/23 make up the sas not just 22 (when pointing out the diffrence they should be referd to as 22, not the real sas)
    sbs reserves along with royal marines reserves take places in full time sbs units and look at how that unit performs so you cant stop your anti reservist rubbish now.

    sas r only train to carry out about half of what 22 do, they have specific roles that they carry out in theatre (and have lost guys doing) so why dont you so some respect

    take a look at this

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/1450394/Overstretched-SAS-calls-up-part-time-troops-for-Afghanistan.html

    all this not real sas…no were near the same…wannabes…just merely ta crap you keep comeing out with just shows how much you actualy know and how much you havent worked with these units.

    wind your neck in…walt

    Comment on December 24, 2009 @ 10:08 am

  86. The b.man wrote,

    man i cannot believe what i am reading
    are you guys idiots. what on the internet it says he sleeps in motels and we believe this immediately

    i am sure there are certain things which are not shown on the tv. i dont think they could really put the camera crew in so much danger what with the lions 50 meters away and all this stuff

    and yeh he even told so himself that sometimes (like the cobra snake) things will be brought out to him to show you people

    lots of people are saying … how is it that he is always soo lucky when he needs it most, and always find his whatever ..tree to build the little boats etc. has it ever crossed your path that it is in fact a tv show that has to go for 40 minutes … what would you rather see, him walking around for 40 minutes looking for a certain tree and thats it .. end of the episode. or would you rather it cut out and showing the best of parts

    i believe that the show is real. again there are some things that are fake. but what to be in hawaii and what in the african desert at the same time? i mean thats both stupid and impossible

    also you can tell that some of you guys are fairly stupid since you keep saying yeh he never drank is piss. …. piss is more then 95% water. meaning that even though i dont know a single one of you n dont really care what u think about my opinion, im still real tempted to get a vid and record myself downing a glass of my own piss

    Comment on January 5, 2010 @ 8:18 am

  87. Will Ronson wrote,

    I was born in 1922 in a cave in the mountains of western canada at an altitude of 6000 ft. to parents who were refugees from “society.”

    I wore oak bark for diapers until I was 9 months old when I began to shit in the woods.

    I ate wild plants and animals (no insects)and helped my old man build a log cabin from deadfall trees when I was 9 years old. I didn’t wear clothing until I was 15 and then it was only hides from animals like racoons and wolves. We made fire in the wild from rubbing sticks together and kept a fire going all the time at the cave and the cabin.

    Les Stroud is my great grandson and can whup Bear Grylls ass any day any time.

    I admit that grylls can eat more shit and drink more piss than Les, but so what? That makes him a shit eating, piss drinking pansy in my book. I also notice that he like to drop his pants on almost every show - like the one where he gave himself a shit water enema on his raft to nowhere. I think he like to play with his equipment in almost every show.

    Anybody like Grylls who thinks jumping from rock to rock and into unknown pools of water from high places is masculine is an idiot.

    Les may be a little boring to some of you stupid couch potatoes who couldn’t find their way out of the back yard ought to try doing what Grylls does - eat some of your own shit and drink a glass of piss and see what excitement really is.

    I now live in a large downtown condo in New York City from profits I am making on both shows.

    Suck it!

    Comment on January 9, 2010 @ 10:25 pm

  88. Tiger Wood wrote,

    bear is a better entertainer. les is a better survivor man.

    Comment on January 11, 2010 @ 8:00 am

  89. Rel Woh wrote,

    I just watched Bear in the Montana Rockies and it was a complete joke with stupid stunts that would get you killed. Come on Bear, you can do better then this, throwing a chain up on the top of a railroad trestle and climbing up without know what it catches on. I don’t believe half of your stunts but I do believe you’re not stupid. This kind of stunt out in the wild can get you injured or killed with on one around to bury you. But in your case I guess you’re covered, you camera men could call a helicopter to come get you.

    Comment on January 20, 2010 @ 7:19 pm

  90. Straight Man wrote,

    I agree with Will Ronson, Bear likes to show his tools behind a blur for some reason. He thinks he’s cool and tuff, but he’s scared of real Bears like an 18 year who just got a wart on his wand. His stupid stunts would get anyone killed in a day in the wild. Eating bugs and dead shit would make you puke your guts out and crap your pants until your dehydrated. He talks about his Wife and kids, ha, she wouldn’t kiss a piss drinking, turd eating, elephant turd water sipper, raw sheep ball eater, ……. Dam I bet he stinks when he finally catches that helicopter back to the HOTEL at night..

    Comment on January 20, 2010 @ 7:33 pm

  91. dazza wrote,

    My son and just finished watching Bear in the sahara, man what he did with that camel was quite wierd. Another thing why does he have to eat bugs, fish and frogs raw use a fire bud. i do get a laugh out of it

    Comment on January 25, 2010 @ 3:12 am

  92. ian wrote,

    Alright first bear grylls isn’t fake people just say that so they can get attention. plus you cant compare survivorman and man vs. wild. Dont get me wrong there both good i watch them both. but bear is more badass and does shit only as a last minute effort to survive. les on the other hand just shows you the basics and thats why i like him simple and it usually always works. now to bear. how are you going to say bear grylls is nothing. i would love to see anyone on these websites go into the wild and survive for a week.most of the people that talk shit on him are fat, lazy, and useless i bet you didn’t climb mt. everest at the age of 22 or were you in the british S.A.S ya i doubt anyone here was and thats why you people suck and bear grylls would destroy les stroud in a survival competition.

    Comment on January 28, 2010 @ 9:09 am

  93. Ed wrote,

    I really like man bs wild, I hate survivorman he is a frawed

    Comment on February 3, 2010 @ 4:12 am

  94. az wrote,

    all of you who are supporting Bear Grylls good on you. all that are on the opposing team get a life. if u have’nt noticed in the black and white writing that comes up during the end of ad breaks that “the majority of his stunts are set up to show the viewers how to survive in the wilderness”… such stuff like ;
    .polystyrene
    .water bottles
    .fishing nets
    .safe zones etc

    dont hate

    Comment on February 8, 2010 @ 4:18 am

  95. Bill wrote,

    I watch both and I think that there are things that can be learned from both. Bear is definietly more flash and Les is more about the basics.

    To the one guy who said you can’t drink your on urine because it is full of toxins- Bunk!! Only if you are sick, on drugs, etc. Do a little basic research. Many a man has survived from drinking his urine. Read “Sufferings in Africa” for one good example.

    I frankly do not understand how sleeping in a Hotel makes someone fake? And yes there are plenty of things that Bear does that would get the average Joe in deep trouble if they tried the same. However he has climbed Everest and sailed the South Seas. And if he was SAS TA and not regular SAS that is by no means a cub scout organization. Why he always seems to want to eat stuff alive and kicking vs building a fire and cooking it is beyond me.

    Les on the other hand sometimes gives the impression that he could go hungry in a supermarket. Oh yeah and lets not forgot the African plains one where he thinks it is a good idea to poke a stick in a hole… it was full of some pretty nasty wasps! Les has studied under some great survivalists including John McPherson (Prairie Wolf).

    As another article pointed out here there are two different philosphies in the two shows. Les is more about surviving where you are whereas Bear is all about getting back to civilization.

    I have attended some survival schools included Air Force SERE & Tom Brown’s and I can see useful information in both shows. I enjoy watching both though I do get more chuckles from Bear. I particularly laughed hard when he drank the liquid from the camels stomach and then regurgitated all of it almost immediately.

    If you are into survival then watch both. There is something to be learned. Bear’s technique for determining N,S,E,W will work whether he stayed in the Hilton or on a rock outcropping the night before. And Les’ techniques for building a fire from a variety of sources work even if he can’t figure out that you should not sleep on the ground in the jungle or freezes his butt off because he can’t remember that thing called a “debris hut”.

    I like em both, and would love to go on an outing with Les… don’t think I could keep up with Bear- and I sure as hell am not crawling into some dank small cave thank you very much!

    Comment on February 8, 2010 @ 12:59 pm

  96. bert wrote,

    ok ppl get the point of this! did you learn something yes\no, in life and death situaions
    are you realy going to remember any one of both two shows?.

    Comment on February 11, 2010 @ 1:42 am

  97. deus wrote,

    “The real problem is that much of the advice given by Bear is critically dangerous, and could get you killed…” PERIOD!

    Comment on February 12, 2010 @ 4:19 pm

  98. J-Bay wrote,

    Bear drinks his own piss (hard as)

    Les catches a fish (boring)

    Bear climbs Mt Everest (hard as)

    Les bitches alot (annoying)

    Bear was in the SAS (hard as)

    Les sits around and waits (boring)

    Bear ate a dead zebra (hard as)

    Les builds tree huts (lame)

    Bear has a sweet name (hard as)

    Les is a girls name (weak as)

    Bear would eat les for breakfast…then shit him out…then eat him again

    Comment on February 15, 2010 @ 6:51 pm

  99. bill wrote,

    The underlying issues that are exposed in this forum are:
    1. Bear gives dangerous and potentially life threatening advice but as he states, “This may not be the safest way to do things, it will get you closer to civilization faster.
    2. Bear is fake? Although he may bring a camera crew with him and aquire aid at times, he shows the brute reality of what needs to be done to cover the distance and make it to civilization.

    Survivorman is one man that takes his cameras as a safety crew is closer than you think, possibly giving water or food at any time. This makes him a potential fraud also.

    Survivorman shows you the basics to stay in one spot for seven days awaiting rescue as Bear shows the alternative.

    Both are well knowledged in what they do, and I gather this from opinion rather that fact. Enjoy the shows and end the debates. If anyone is truly worried what they must do if they are lost consult a survival expert that is familiar to the area.

    thank you,
    Bill

    Comment on March 3, 2010 @ 11:29 pm

  100. Josh Horvat wrote,

    Bear Grylls is better than survival man as grylls does his his own challenges down cliffs and waterfalls unlike survival man who just simply sits around for the entirety of the show. Bear Grylls also shows how to survive life threatening situations like getting caught in freezing fast flowing streams.

    Comment on March 15, 2010 @ 2:16 pm

  101. Bails wrote,

    How could anyone like Survivor man. He doesn’t do anything. He is to scared to eat anything from the wild and he doesn’t move anywhere. He is a very boring man. I couldn’t even sit through 1 of his shows. BORING!!!

    Bear on the other hand is great. He actually give advice on what to do if you ever get stuck in the wrong situation. Yes some of it is dangerous but thats what he loves for. If people don’t like him or his shows then don’t watch them, its as easy as that. I can’t believe people say he is fake when he strips down to nothing when it is -20 degrees and jumps into a freezing cold river to show the viewers what happens to the body and how to get warm again. Do you ever see survivor man doing that??? No way cause he is crap.

    Bear, you are the best keep doing what you love doing and we the fans will keep watching.

    Comment on March 17, 2010 @ 6:59 pm

  102. Joey wrote,

    Who really gives a shit?? If u like the show watch it and if u don’t, then don’t watch
    I like man vs wild more but that’s my oppinion, and even if it is fake Its still a good show

    Comment on March 24, 2010 @ 3:21 am

  103. bear is kooler wrote,

    If you were really trying hard to survive you wouldn’t be able to carry cameras around with you, you would need a camera crew to acurately demo survival skills.
    And all you fuckers are saying that listening to bear would get you killed, if you weren’t a fuckin retard you would actually be able to do the things he says if u weren’t a fuckin pussy you would be able to jump into water without knowing how deep it is…
    And if u watch the behind the scenes episodes of survivor man u would know that les also has a crew not too far away, and on one episode he runs back to his crew like a little faggot, where if bear were in the same situation he would demonstrate a way to avoid the danger if u were actually lost in the wild..
    So to all the bear haters out there use are probly all lazy fat cunts that sit at home complainin bout bear coz he’s better than you, your all worthless pieces of shit..

    Comment on March 24, 2010 @ 4:01 am

  104. bill wrote,

    Quoted from Joey, “Who really gives a shit?? If u like the show watch it and if u don’t, then don’t watch.”
    BAM says everything in one, lmao.

    This forum should be over from that comment.

    Comment on March 26, 2010 @ 9:28 am

  105. Andy wrote,

    Bear Grylls has written a dozen books, he has served with the British Special Forces and was the youngest guy ever to climb MT Everest.. Aside from all that there is a list of accomplishments that would make survivorman look like a pansy… Maybe his show is hypothetical… But it has that disclaimer before you watch it.. His show is way more educational and he is the perfect guy to lead a show like that… Survivorman to me is cheap entertainment. You dont learn anything. Besides all that Bear Grylls gives to like a million charities which makes the guy all the more of a stud….

    Comment on May 20, 2010 @ 6:45 pm

  106. Jared wrote,

    Bear shows how to survive extreme conditions. He has a family and kids, and is trying to show examples of survival for those who know nothing and could be useful in hard times. Who cares what he does off of the show. His program is much more entertaining than most.

    Comment on June 13, 2010 @ 11:25 am

  107. John wrote,

    Bear Grylls adds entertainment to his show. Les sits under a tree and bitches for the full fucking show. Granted, Les is actually roughing it out alone and surviving, if you’re watching Discovery Channel to learn how to survive in the Mojave Desert, you’ve got a fucking problem.

    Anyone watching either of these shows for survival tips is pants-shittingly stupid. Both of these men are experts in what they do and are both truly amazing individuals, they may be able to give you a hint or two, but it doesn’t matter how many times you watch their show, it won’t help you much when you’re actually dehydrating and starving in the middle of a fucking desert.

    And anyone who knocks Bear’s survival skill and physical prowess because his show is largely fake is fucking stupid. He climbed Mount Everest, motherfuckers. You couldn’t make it half way up on the best day of your life. To affront Bear’s achievements and talents because he likes to spice up a show is just pure jealousy. He’s done more with his life than 99% of you ever will. If you don’t like his show, don’t fucking watch it. Don’t go around acting like the man is an invalid like a bunch of 3 year old twats.

    On a side note: If Les didn’t bitch so much, I’d watch him. It’s a great show, but you can only listen to the same man bitch about hunger and thirst so many times before you want to shoot your TV, lol.

    Comment on June 27, 2010 @ 9:15 pm

  108. Oliver wrote,

    What exactly are you accusing him of “faking”? Everything is right in front of you on the television screen. He eats in the wild, he creates fire in the wild, he obtains water in the wild, and he builds sustainable shelter in the wild.

    Those are considered the survival basics and are the premise for every survival show on Discovery.

    Just because he may have slept in a hotel at some point during his life or knows what McDonald’s tastes like… doesn’t mean he isn’t a survivalist.

    Comment on July 31, 2010 @ 4:35 am

  109. ricky wrote,

    I think everyone can suck on big giant weiner.. bc man vs wild is an amazing.. I will always love that show! Bear grylls is my inspiration! Fake or no fake. Go bear!!!

    Comment on August 1, 2010 @ 6:10 pm

  110. robert wrote,

    This guy named Bear is an idiot, i have worked and played in the Bush all my life and he shows no respect for nature or wildlife. It is just unfortunate that a bear or snake has not taken a bite out of him, i would love to match wits with him in the wild and i bet that without the cameras rolling he is about effective as a wet paper bag and quite likey runs in fear of anything that moves in the bush. It is a shame that Discovery has felt the need to broadcast a show with him in it.

    Comment on August 10, 2010 @ 11:04 am

  111. wilma wrote,

    Okay folks, let’s be honest - if you were all alone, no one else to back you up, would you:

    A) Jump over lava warning folks of danger of doing that
    B) Walk around the lava knowing the danger of it

    Face it - people in Manitoba have credited Les Stroud and Survivorman for living long enough to be rescued. Making nighttime shelter, when to move vs. when not to, how to get water and not get sick. Bear is out there making something you want to watch because it’s exciting.

    Any fool can see that a carcass of a dead buffalo is decomposed and fly/maggot cover is not going to be prime rib! But the fool pokes at it anyway.

    If you are still convinced that Bear is 100% honest then you aren’t catching the opening credit disclaimer.

    (Stupid ADD/ADHD kids and their need for hype. Grumble grumble)

    Comment on August 11, 2010 @ 9:05 am

  112. tom wrote,

    Les is like listening to a greazy beer fart. Bear is 1000 times more entertaining. Sure he has a camera crew, but they are just as tough as he is . any of you folks out there think your tougher go ahead and swim naked in a frozen river. Eat some apples out of a bear turd, oh yeah, he rinsed em first, what a candy cane. So run with him for 1 hour or shut up and enjoy the entertainment!

    Comment on August 21, 2010 @ 4:30 pm

  113. Brett wrote,

    Bear rocks, I wouldn’t watch survivorman if you paid me…BORING! So does he still get stranded with his guitar? You can keep that clown for yourself…HE SUCKS! At least bear probably gets laid.

    Comment on August 21, 2010 @ 4:34 pm

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